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August 01, 2010

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Erin Wilson

Thoughts?

-holy crap.
-I wish I could have slowed that down to 1/2 speed.

-I've long suspected that many animals are empathetic. Makes it much more devastating to me to see them caged, used + abused, forced to perform for our entertainment, etc. I wonder if they're more advanced in the empathy department than we are.

-if this is true (and it makes so much sense I have no reason to believe that it isn't), it makes me wonder about the way we read scripture. Presumably, those living 2000 years ago were soft-wired to be less empathetic. And those living 4000 year ago were even less so. It tends to put things into really interesting context.

-tons more thoughts rolling around. Thanks for posting this, Mike!!

Doug

I saw this video about a month ago, and a few thoughts came to me then: (1) it would sure be nice if society ran this way, and (2) how on earth would it actually happen?

On the former point, I agree with the author that we are "wired" with certain [whatevers] (I'm not a neurobiologist) that are not only capable of feeling and thinking and behaving in ways that are nondestructive and are socially positive. Furthermore, it was meant to be that was from the beginning. While I would question that competition and self-interest were Darwin's faulty creation, and I would question that the new research "counters" this notion, it is very encouraging that neuroscience contributes to the social science of how we relate to one another. As a student of economic philosophy, human beings cannot and are not intended to exist alone: we relate to one another. How we related to one another is key to progress, social justice, and to our souls. While I think Mike misrepresents the supposed Darwin view of "self-interest" and "competition," he is right that those things are not the complete story of human beings' interaction with one another socially.

The second point ("how on earth would it actually happen?") is more critical in many ways because it has to do with the praxeology. As a follower of Christ building for the Kingdom of God (and my eschatology is likely aligned very closely with Mike's), it is my responsibility and at the core of my social being to serve others and love our neighbor. Doing so in my personal sphere is key, of course, but even encouraging others to do it on a larger sphere of influence is important, because it's a big world out there!

Mike, it's interesting that you bring up "love your neighbour" because it is one of the biggest reasons why I believe Christianity and libertarian philosophy are immensely compatible. While I'm still in the middle of writing on it, essentially loving your neighbor begins with respect and deference to one's neighbor and his/her preferences. Freedom inherently limits the boundaries by which we must operate as individuals toward our neighbors. Yet this is only a starting point, and does not reach into the "love" part. But it sets the foundation for it.

But here's my fear, which reminds me of Greg Boyd's comment to Jim Wallis in a debate I heard (via podcast on Boyd's website), "I don’t see how our commitment to Christ gives us a unique privileged stance on having an extra wisdom to tell government, 'Here’s what you should do.' The hope of the world isn’t found in our tweaking the government the right way." Now, Mike didn't say anything about government, so I'm not trying to take us down that road. But the point of the quote is the bolded part: "the hope of the world." The hope of the world is in Jesus. Not the right laws, not the right constrains on individuals' economic decisions, not on the right "leaders" in world power, not the right type of authority in power. These and more is why I reject state-based solutions to things. But I'm getting off-topic.

Mike, I loved this article. I'm sure my ending comments don't make it out to be that way, but I wanted to share a few of my own thoughts. Hopefully I didn't ramble too much.

Another link regarding this article from an institution I respect: http://blog.acton.org/archives/17655-humans-are-not-economic-automata.html

Jonathan Brink

Mike, Daniel Goleman's Social Intelligence breaks down the mirror neuron process exceptionally well. When I read this idea it really struck me as obvious but not. We relate by reconstructing what the other person is feeling.

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